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Katehi has faculty support

We, the undersigned UC Davis faculty, support the free exchange of ideas on campus and students’ right to peaceful protests. We are appalled by the events of Friday, Nov. 18, on the Quad, but heartened by the chancellor’s apology and her commitment to listen to and work on the students’ concerns.

We strongly believe that Linda Katehi is well-qualified to lead our university through this difficult healing process and oppose the premature calls for her resignation; this is not in the best interest of our university.

Walter S. Leal, Professor, Entomology
Nina Amenta, Professor, Computer Science
Francisco J. Samaniego, Distinguished Professor, Statistics
Ricardo H. R. Castro, Assistant Professor, Chemical Engineering & Material Science
Kevin Johnson, Professor and Dean, Law School (signing in his individual capacity)
Eduardo Blumwald, Professor, Plant Sciences
Miguel A. Mendez, Professor, Law School
Maureen Stanton, Professor, Evolution and Ecology
Miguel A. Marino, Distinguished Professor Emeritus, Hydrologic Sciences, Civil & Environmental Engineering, and Biological & Agricultural Engineering
Adela De La Torre, Professor, Chicano/a Studies
James B. Ames, Professor, Chemistry
John E. Bolander, Professor, Civil & Environmental Engineering
Charles L. Judson, Emeritus Professor, Entomology
Joaquim Silvestre, Professor, Economics
Satya Dandekar, Professor and Chair, Medical Microbiology and Immunology
James R. Carey, Professor of Entomology and Director, Biodemographic Determinants of Lifespan
Emanual Maverakis, Assistant Professor, Dermatology
Abhaya M. Dandekar, Professor, Plant Sciences
Renee Tsolis, Associate Professor, Medical Microbiology and Immunology
R Holland Cheng, Professor, Molecular & Cellular Biology
Robert H. Rice, Professor, Environmental Toxicology
Susan Rivera, Professor, Psychology
Andre Knoesen, Professor, Electrical and Computer Engineering
Lorena Garcia, Assistant Professor, Public Health Science
Angela Gelli, Associate Professor, Pharmacology
Susan E. Ebeler, Professor, Viticulture & Enology
George Bruening, Professor Emeritus, Plant Pathology; Member, National Academy of Sciences
Anh-Vu Pham, Professor, Electrical and Computer Engineering
Xiaoguang Liu, Assistant Professor, Electrical and Computer Engineering
M. Saif Islam, Professor, Electrical & Computer Engineering
S. Geoffrey Schladow, Professor, Civil and Environmental Engineering
Venkatesh Akella, Professor, Electrical & Computer Engineering
Judith S Stern, Distinguished Professor, Nutrition and Internal Medicine; Member, Institute of Medicine
Fu-Tong Liu, Distinguished Professor and Chair, Dermatology
Neville Luhmann Jr., Distinguished Professor, Electrical and Computer Engineering
William J. Murphy, Professor and Vice Chair of Research, Dermatology and Internal Medicine
Susan Kauzlarich, Professor, Chemistry, Recipient of the Presidential Award for Excellence in Science, Mathematics, and Engineering Mentoring
Alan Hastings, Distinguished Professor, Environmental Science and Policy; Member, Academy of Arts and Sciences
Richard Michelmore, Professor and Director, The Genome Center
Sebastian Schreiber, Professor, Evolution and Ecology
John S. Werner, Distinguished Professor, Ophthalmology & Vision Science; Neurobiology, Physiology & Behavior
Terence M. Murphy, Professor Emeritus, Plant Biology
Judy Callis, Professor, Molecular and Cellular Biology
Frank McNally, Professor, Molecular and Cellular Biology
Susan L. Keen, Senior Lecturer SOE, Evolution and Ecology
Kimberley McAllister, Professor, Center for Neuroscience, Neurology, and NPB
Joseph F. Antognini, Clinical Professor, Anesthesiology and Pain Medicine
Charles A. Fuller, Professor, Neurobiology, Physiology & Behavior
W. Martin Usrey, Professor, Center for Neuroscience, Neurobiology, Physiology & Behavior, and Neurology
Kyriacos A. Athanasiou, Distinguished Professor & Chair, Biomedical Engineering and Orthopaedic Surgery
Sue C. Bodine, Professor, Neurobiology, Physiology and Behavior
David M. Rocke, Distinguished Professor, Public Health Sciences and Biomedical Engineering
Scott I. Simon Professor and Vice Chair, Biomedical Engineering
Leah Krubitzer Professor and MacArthur Fellow, Psychology
Yong Duan, Professor. UC Davis Genome Center and Biomedical Engineering
Emanuel Epstein, Research Professor, Land, Air and Water Resources; Member, National Academy of Sciences
Subhash H. Risbud, Distinguished Professor, Materials Science
David P. Fyhrie, Professor, David Linn Endowed Chair, Biomedical Engineering
Thomas R. Gordon, Professor and Chair, Plant Pathology
Pam Ronald, Professor, Plant Pathology and Genome Center
Douglas Cook, Professor, Plant Pathology
Charles W. Bamforth, Professor, Food Science and Technology
Michael R. Hill, Professor and Vice Chair, Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
Diane M. Beckles, Associate Professor, Plant Sciences
Sashi K. Kunnath, Professor and Chair, Civil and Environmental Engineering
Mary L. Cadenasso, Associate Professor, Plant Sciences
Mary Louise Flint, Extension Entomologist, Entomology
John I. Yoder, Professor, Plant Sciences
Bryce W. Falk, Professor, Plant Pathology
Douglas A. Kelt, Professor, Wildlife, Fish, & Conservation Biology
Benjamin J. McCoy, Professor Emeritus, Chemical Engineering
Bo Lonnerdal, Distinguished Professor, Nutrition & Internal Medicine
J. Bruce German, Professor, Food Science & Technology, Director, Foods for Health Institute
Janet F. Roser, Professor, Animal Science
Robert K. Washino, Emeritus Professor, Entomology
Iannis E. Adamopoulos, Assistant Professor, Internal Medicine
Kathryn Dewey, Distinguished Professor, Nutrition
Tina Jeoh, Assistant Professor, Biological and Agricultural Engineering
Harry H. Cheng, Professor, Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
Michael Denison, Professor, Environmental Toxicology
Ye Chen-Izu, Assistant Professor, Pharmacology
Trish Berger, Professor, Animal Science
Linda J. Harris, Cooperative Extension Specialist, Food Science and Technology
Stefan Wuertz, Professor, Civil and Environmental Engineering
Rob Y. H. Chai, Professor, Civil and Environmental Engineering
Stephen Kowalczykowski, Distinguished Professor, Microbiology, and of Molecular and Cellular Biology; Member, National Academy of Sciences
James F. Shackelford, Professor, Chemical Engineering and Materials Science
Deb Niemeier, Professor, Civil Engineering
Maria Marco, Assistant Professor, Food Science & Technology
Brian Mulloney, Distinguished Professor, Neurobiology, Physiology, and Behavior
Katherine Ferrara, Professor, Biomedical Engineering
William D. Ristenpart, Assistant Professor, Chemical Engineering & Materials Science
Jean-Jacques Chattot, Professor, Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
Anita M. Oberbauer, Professor, Animal Science
David Gilchrist, Professor Emeritus, Plant Pathology
Jay R. Lund, Professor, Civil and Environmental Engineering
Carlos E. Puente, Professor, Land Air and Water Resources
David Biale, Distinguished Professor, History
Lynn Kimsey, Professor, Entomology
David Horsley, Associate Professor, Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
Valerie Williamson, Professor, Entomology and Nematology
Kyaw Tha Paw U, Professor, Atmospheric Science & Land, Air and Water Resources
Matthew J. Wood, Associate Professor, Environmental Toxicology
Eduardo A. Silva, Assistant Professor, Biomedical Engineering
Ning Pan, Professor, Textiles, Biological & Agricultural Engineering
Debra Long, Professor and Chair, Psychology
Robert Emmons, Professor, Psychology
Brian Trainor, Associate Professor, Psychology
Shelley A. Blozis, Associate Professor, Psychology
John P. Capitanio, Research Psychologist, Psychology
Joy Geng, Assistant Professor, Psychology
Valley Stewart, Professor, Microbiology
Ann Huff Stevens, Professor, Economics
Lisa Oakes, Professor, Psychology
Kristin H. Lagattuta, Associate Professor, Psychology
Robert Feenstra, Distinguished Professor, Economics
Gregory Clark, Professor, Economics
George A. Barnett, Professor & Chair, Communication
Fadi A. Fathallah, Professor, Biological and Agricultural Engineering
Jeff Sherman, Professor, Psychology
James E. K. Hildreth, Professor and Dean, College of Biological Sciences (signing in his individual capacity); Member, Institute of Medicine
Sally P. Mendoza, Professor Emeritus of Psychology and Staff Scientist, California National Primate Research Center
Peter H. Lindert, Distinguished Research Professor of Economics
Scott E. Carrell, Associate Professor, Economics
Steven J. Luck, Professor, Psychology, Director, Center for Mind & Brain
Robert A. Bell, Professor, Communication
Dean Keith Simonton, Distinguished Professor, Psychology
Ahmet Palazoglu, Professor & Chair, Chemical Engineering and Materials Science
Stephen Lewis, Professor, Electrical and Computer Engineering
Delmar Larsen, Assistant Professor, Chemistry
Gary N. Cherr, Professor and Interim Director, Bodega Marine Laboratory
Mario Biagioli, Distinguished Professor of Science and Technology Studies & Law Director, Center for Science & Innovation Studies
Michael D. Toney, Professor, Chemistry
Shota Atsumi, Assistant Professor, Chemistry
Kirill Kovnir, Assistant Professor, Chemistry
Thomas W. Schoener, Distinguished Professor, Evolution and Ecology
Simon R. Cherry, Professor, Biomedical Engineering
Alyson Mitchell, Professor, Food Science & Technology
Kent J. Bradford, Professor, Plant Sciences
T. M. DeJong, Professor, Plant Sciences
Carlos H. Crisosto, Specialist, Plant Sciences
Neil E. Schore, Professor and Vice-chair, Chemistry
Louis W. Botsford, Professor, Wildlife, Fish, and Conservation Biology
Marylynn Barkley, Emeritus, Neurobiology, Physiology and Behavior
Joseph M. DiTomaso, Cooperative Extension Specialist, Plant Sciences
Bruce C. Kirkpatrick, Professor, Plant Pathology
Jay A. Rosenheim, Professor, Entomology
Hildegarde Heymann, Professor, Viticulture and Enology
Douglas Nelson, Professor, Microbiology
Richard Grotjahn, Atmospheric Science and Climate Dynamics
David Simpson, Professor, English
Frederic Chedin, Associate Professor, Molecular and Cellular Biology
Alan L. Balch. Distinguished Professor, Chemistry
J. Edward Taylor, Professor, Agricultural and Resource Economics
Bruce Hartsough, Professor, Biological and Agricultural Engineering
Jacquelyn Gervay-Hague, Professor and Chair, Chemistry
Nael H. El-Farra, Associate Professor, Chemical Engineering & Materials Science
Giovanni Peri, Professor, Economics
Carlton Larson, Professor, School of Law
Athena Soulika, Assistant Professor, Dermatology
Gabriel J. Chin, Professor, Law School
Matt Traxler, Professor, Psychology
Alan Brownstein, Distinguished Professor, Law School
Evelyn Lewis, Professor, Law School
Dennis Ventry, Professor, Law School
Barbara A. Burrall, Health Sciences Clinical Professor, Dermatology
Robert Hillman, Professor, Law School
Lovell (Tu) Jarvis, Professor, Agricultural and Resource Economics
Donna Shestowsky, Professor, Law School
Margaret Johns, Senior Lecturer, Law School
Albert Lin, Professor, Law School
Rex Perschbacher, Professor, Law School
Edward Imwinkelried, Professor, Law School
Marilynn Etzler, Professor, Biochemistry
Andrea Bjorklund, Professor, Law School
Elizabeth Joh, Professor, Law School
Tilahun Yilma, Distinguished Professor of Virology; Member, National Academy of Sciences
Ashutosh Bhagwat, Professor, Law School
Frank Osterloh, Professor, Chemistry
Richard M. Frank, Professor, Law School
Leslie Kurtz, Professor, Law School
Yoko Ono, Assistant Researcher, Dermatology
Jinyi Qi,Professor, Biomedical Engineering
Courtney G. Joslin, Professor, Law School
Isao Fujimoto, Emeritus Senior Lecturer, Community & Regional Development & Asian American Studies
R. Paul Singh, Distinguished Professor, Food Engineering
Wendy Silk, Professor, Land, Air, and Water Resources
Jared T. Shaw, Assistant Professor, Chemistry
Joel C. Dobris, Professor of Law, Emeritus
Madhavi Sunder, Professor, Law School
Donald P. Land, Professor, Chemistry
Anupam Chander, Professor, Law School
Kit S. Lam, Professor and Chair, Biochemistry and Molecular Medicine
Peter B. Moyle, Professor, Wildlife, Fish, and Conservation Biology
John M. Labavitch, Professor, Plant Sciences
Anthony Wexler, Professor, Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
Robyn M. Rodriguez, Associate Professor, Asian American Studies
Robert H Smiley, Dean and Professor Emeritus, Graduate School of Management
David Simpson, Professor, English

Daniel L. Simmons, Professor, Law School

Annaliese K. Franz, Assistant Professor, Chemistry

Eric E. Conn, Professor Emeritus, Plant Biochemistry; Member, National Academy of Sciences

Carlito Lebrilla, Distinguished Professor, Chemistry

Clayton Tanaka, Professor, Law School

Lisa Pruitt, Professor, Law School

Sherman Stein, Professor Emeritus, Mathematics

Charles F. Shoemaker, Professor, Food Science and Technology

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  • Amrit SidhuNovember 30, 2011 - 12:55 pm

    Shame on you all. Especially those from the Hard Sciences. I would at least expect those from the Neuroscience department to at least feel some sort of human emotions, but apparently you guys are too stuck in your research labs to really care about human beings. I am ashamed to be a Science student and sick and tired of having to deal with insolent professors who don't give a flying fig about their students. Apparently your mirror neurons are blocked or something. You of all people should know the effects and biochemical mechanisms of pepper spray.

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  • PangNovember 30, 2011 - 7:38 pm

    206 professors is nothing. There are more professors/ teachers on campus than that. Plus, we have to consider other variables--are these teaching professors, seasonal teachers, professors affiliated with UCD only by name, etc. Why don't they show us the percentage of faculty support? My guess, "1%."

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  • DNovember 30, 2011 - 8:16 pm

    They're real professors; I've had many of them as teachers. Don't be so quick to judge their motives.

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  • peteDecember 01, 2011 - 1:31 am

    Faculty support is overwhelming in her favor. That was clear at the Town Hall on Tuesday night.

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  • Albert YangNovember 30, 2011 - 1:35 pm

    Shame on you. You just can't accept that other people may have opinions that differ from yours.

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  • LeoNovember 30, 2011 - 1:42 pm

    I feel very proud of these professors.

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  • Amrit SidhuNovember 30, 2011 - 1:44 pm

    People can have as many opinions different from mine. I respect that. But I cannot respect people who cannot hold a top level administrator accountable for their decisions and actions. Time and time again, I see administration blame the police department, and the police department blame the administration for certain actions and responses. No one takes responsibility. The sad thing is that these kind of violent actions towards students have been a long standing tradition, without anyone being held accountable. I also don't respect those that run around thinking that students are immature dimwits who have no sense of responsibility and cannot handle people who have differing opinions from others. Please talk to a few science students and ask them if they feel that their professors know that they exist. We're just a number, and we always will remain as such. Expressing my opinion does not negate other people's opinions nor does it entail that I do not have respect for the existence of a diversity of opinions. I am just expressing my opinion.

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  • RachelBNovember 30, 2011 - 2:11 pm

    Prof. David Simpson of the English department apparently supports Chancellor Katehi so much that he signed twice.

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  • WDNovember 30, 2011 - 2:52 pm

    What nonsense, a "difficult healing process"? For whom? For senior administrators who feign surprise when they've been ordering police violence against students for years? Way to stand up for the violent status quo.

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  • Elizabeth FreemanNovember 30, 2011 - 3:18 pm

    Mark Reyes (quoted in the article) nobody is talking about not having security. The SF Bay Guardian had an editorial today advocating that the state Legislature force armed police off of UC campuses, and replace them with an unarmed security force and recourse to the city police when necessary. http://www.sfbg.com/bruce/2011/11/29/guardian-editorial-problem-uc-police

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  • EJNovember 30, 2011 - 4:27 pm

    This is ridiculous. So because she gave a heartfelt apology and gave a "commitment to listen to and work on the students’ concerns", she can be excused from this matter? That because she is a good leader and can lead us through the “healing” process of a mess that she arguably created, people are wrong to call for her resignation? What kind of precedence are you trying to set? Shouldn’t the chancellor have always had a commitment to listen to and work on the students' concerns? Shouldn’t she have worked with the police chief and Vice Chancellor Meyer to develop a plan to respond to a UCD "Occupy" protest, particularly after what happened at UC Berkeley a week prior to this incident? I think her failure to adequately address the “Occupy” protest combined with her responses in the day or two following the incident warrant her resignation. That doesn’t mean that anyone needs to agree with my opinion, that doesn’t mean that anyone needs to agree she should resign at all, but common, don’t make it out to be the case that a simple apology and some sort of squishy commitment to work with students in the future makes her actions/inactions excusable.

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  • IconoclastNovember 30, 2011 - 6:39 pm

    What we learn from this letter is that it is fine to inflict egregious harm on others, so long as we remember to apologize when this puts our jobs in jeopardy, and convince others that they should forget their injuries in the name of "getting on with the healing process". I could not more strongly disagree. UC Davis has achieved international notoriety through this shameful incident, which was completely avoidable, and grossly mishandled after it occurred. We need leadership with the integrity and judgement to know how to strenuously avoid such incidents, and how to properly respond if they do occur. This faculty message will only further sink UC Davis into the mire of disgrace and shame among students, peer institutions, and the world-wide academic community.

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  • twodonnellNovember 30, 2011 - 8:44 pm

    And how does this 205 compare to the 109,660 "premature" signatures that have called for her resignation?

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  • peteDecember 01, 2011 - 1:27 am

    Here's how they compare. These people actually work at the university, many of them for decades, most of them for the rest of their lives. Those 109,600 people have no stake in UCD.

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  • kkosterDecember 01, 2011 - 4:37 am

    Pete, It appears indeed that what's common about most of the 205 is that they are among the highest paid faculty, from departments that have suffered the least under budget cuts, and who will continue to profit the most given the Chancellor's funding priorities. Of the 109,600 who have called for K's resignation, many do in fact have an enormous stake in UCD, and are claiming so with their signatures (who doesn't have a stake in a university that still claims to be public?) Don't you mean, actually, that these highest paid faculty/admin (the university 1%) have more financial weight and political clout than those hundred thousand plus on the other petition--whether they've given decades of their lives for the university, Sodexo, Marriott, or just raising a child who will one day take out loans to attend a UC? When the tents come out and the stakes are visible, it's not unusual for the wealthy to dismiss the numbers and get all huffy about those who suddenly demand to count (in the form of their 2+ minutes at the mike (Oh No!) their signatures on a petition, or their visibility as source of future profit). I hate to say the obvious about your comment on stake (holders) and their allegiance to a queen...er, Chancellor...but, remember this one: Queen: (somewhat faking concern, somewhat faking confusion) My dear [stake holders], why do all the peasants protest? They protest because they have no bread...

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  • peteDecember 01, 2011 - 10:24 am

    That's simply not true. There are plenty of assistant and associate professor signatures on there, and very few signatures from the med school (the highest paid). It's absurd and grotesquely cynical to try to turn this into a 99% deal. Yes, let's make this a students vs. faculty situation; that'll be productive. You can try to minimize this letter all you want, but soon it will be clear that Katehi has strong faculty support (unless something unexpected comes from one of the reports). I would ask how many of those 109,600 signatures are from people who live in California? Here's another important difference between the signators of this letter and the 109,600: The people who signed this letter have worked with and know Katehi. Unfortunately, you and many others seem to be confused about the enemy. Katehi isn't responsible for privatizing the university and raising tuition. Katehi is responsible for dealing with the mess laid on her desk by the state legislature. Students, faculty, and staff should be united in re-funding UC; this nonsense about Katehi is a distraction. The legislators back in Sacramento who have been gutting the university are probably laughing their asses off. They probably also feel empowered to continue the cuts, knowing the campus admins are going to take the heat.

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  • Amrit SidhuDecember 01, 2011 - 10:48 am

    Then please explain this: http://www.baycitizen.org/education/story/protesters-demand-uc-regents-raises/ Did the State legislature make them do that. And yes this is a 99% issue.

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  • peteDecember 01, 2011 - 11:07 am

    Guess I can't respond to the post below about salary increases, so I'll post it here. Salaries--another great red herring to shift attention from the real issue. First, UC administration salaries are middling in the world of academics. If you want cut-rate administration, go ahead and fight for it. If you think reducing admin salaries is going to make even a tiny little dent in the funds cut by the state, you are delusional. If you think removing the best applicants from the pool of potential admins is good for the UC, you also are delusional. And, yes, the state legislature did make them do that. Both admin and faculty salaries have been stagnating and falling behind our competitors for years due to cuts in the state budget. Sooner or later, you either pay your good people or you lose them.

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  • EJDecember 01, 2011 - 7:41 am

    Pete, I hope you don't work for the University- that logic won't get you very far here. I am one of those "109,600" signatures and I have been a part of UC Davis for 11 years. There is a difference between the "premature" signatures and those 205 but please don't make it out to be so simple.

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  • Greg KuperbergNovember 30, 2011 - 10:19 pm

    I am a faculty member in the math department, and I'm frustrated that this letter is even necessary. The letter is not perfect; I support it above all because people are trying to stampede the campus into firing our chancellor. Katehi has done a good job in general, and we should let investigations run their course before deciding what to do about this case.

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  • EJDecember 01, 2011 - 7:56 am

    Professor, I do agree with you, due process is important (personally I feel that these investigations will not exonerate Kahehi from wrong-doing in my book). That issue aside, you as faculty members need to have more critical thinking behind the letters you sign (this goes for those who signed Professor Brown's letter also). I would have rather seen you guys sign a letter that said something similar what you just wrote above (its logical and fair). What you signed is very dismissive of the entire event- for the reasons I wrote previously. It does not send a good message to the students. I would assume that is not your intent (I know numerous faculty who signed this), but that is the way the letter reads. One thing all the faculty here at UC Davis has instilled upon me is critical thinking/reasoning in a multitude of situations and I would expect the faculty here to perform likewise.

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  • Jonathan EisenDecember 01, 2011 - 11:59 am

    EJ - I think you are mostly right here. I am a Professor at UC Davis and have been actively blogging and tweeting about the incident since it occurred. While I am not calling for Katehi's resignation, and prior to this incident I think Katehi had been an extraordinarily good Chancellor, I did not sign this letter because I did not like the language in it. I do not think we need competing PR campaigns in support of or against the Chancellor right now. What we need is to (1) get more detail on all of the before/after of the incident and (2) transform UC Davis and the country in order to do a better job at supporting students in these financially hard times. Regarding #1 - I am willing to wait for investigations to happen, although I note - some of the proposed investigations sound dubious to me in terms of their independence. Regarding #2, and regardless of what happened with #1 - The fact is, students have been hammered by tuition increases and budget cuts while administrators and faculty (myself included) have mostly gone about their daily lives as previously. That just has to change. And I for one will be working as hard as I can to find ways to help the students - pushing for alternative budget cuts instead of tuition increases, pushing for tax increases to better fund schools, and so on. I have been very impressed with how the students have handled themselves in response to this controversy (mostly). What I hope is that staff and faculty and administrators can rise to the occasion too and make something useful out of this mess.

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  • Greg KuperbergDecember 01, 2011 - 1:21 pm

    EJ - As I said, the letter is not perfect. I decided that it's close enough and that there isn't a realistic opportunity to organize a better one. I agree with Professor Eisen that there shouldn't be so many competing petitions and "open letters" flying around the campus. The truth doesn't spring from a petition. I signed Leal's petition mainly in response to overreaching by other people. I am told that there are now five separate investigations into the pepper spray incident. I don't know of any faculty member who wants to dismiss these investigations or the incident itself. The pepper spray incident looks inexcusable and it should be investigated. I'm also not mainly concerned with due process in the sense of judicial fairness. I only want due process in the sense of scientific reasoning. I studied a lot of the public evidence to decide whether I should believe, ahead of the investigations, that Katehi has ruined her standing. Or whether I should expect the investigations to ruin her standing. The fact is that I don't yet see it that way.

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  • EJDecember 02, 2011 - 7:31 am

    Thank you both for your insights, I understand where you are coming from and note the imperfections in this letter as well as the other one(s) circulating. While I still don't support Katehi, I'm not going to waste time vilifying her or trying to get her to resign as you are correct there is the far more important issue of rising tuition costs and budget cutbacks on campus. Independent of the outcomes of the investigations, I hope this incident spurs all of us- grad students, under grads, faculty, and admin to start becoming more vocal about how these increases in tuition are affecting or will be affecting all of us. I am a current graduate student at UC Davis (and former undergrad) and amongst other concerns, I fear that soon, the majority of grad students will no longer have their tuition covered due to the rising tuition costs. This will directly affect the ability of UC Davis to continue performing high-quality research (grad students will need to hold a separate job) and will affect the quality of TA's and then by proxy faculty.

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  • Greg KuperbergDecember 02, 2011 - 8:18 pm

    I don't know if you're still around in the discussion. But for the record, the economics of graduate school go against making most graduate students in good standing pay tuition. (This is not including grad students in professional schools.) Other universities don't do it, and UC Davis probably won't either. Even from the point of view of selfish economics, grad school is mostly a barter trade, but one adjusted by a low salary for the grad students. "What are most public research universities doing" is a good general guide for what you can expect UC Davis to do in the future.

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  • Amrit SidhuNovember 30, 2011 - 10:29 pm

    I agree. Perhaps it would make more sense to wait until the results of the ACLU Public Records request and other investigations are released.

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  • tehichiDecember 01, 2011 - 10:25 am

    Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat

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  • RSDecember 01, 2011 - 10:50 am

    I find it incredibly interesting and troubling that the words "healing" or "healing process" are used in all the statements of support for Katehi (e.g., Katehi and Vice Chancellor Fred Wood). It is reasonable to ask why Katehi's defenders have so much interest in speaking of healing when it was the students who got hurt. It is lazy, irresponsible language that prevents them from having to make and defend a legitimate argument, but I think there is even more to it. I think they hope to dilute responsibility for the harm done to the students by imagining that somehow they and the chancellor share equally in the wound.

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  • IconoclastDecember 01, 2011 - 12:50 pm

    RS: I completely agree. The "healing process" is a euphemism that the administration and its sycophants have adopted for the process of trying to bury the incident without being held accountable and accepting complete responsibility. And that is precisely what made the incident go nuclear in the first place. It seems they are constitutionally incapable of this simple step, which is the essential prerequisite to true reconciliation.

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  • Amrit SidhuDecember 01, 2011 - 12:41 pm

    I am so sorry that the fact that us students see it problematic that the very people who claim that we are in such a crisis, give out bonuses and pay increases to administrative members. I understand how the trivial nature of us students, as consumers, not receiving the education and resources that we pay for is just yet another red herring for you. I just have one question for you. For a student that has to work multiple jobs, attend school full time, keep up with the recent fee increase, run around with the little time he/she has to beg to get classes so that he/she can graduate on time, and must maintain his/her grades, exactly WHAT does a top-notch administration do for him/her?

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  • Greg KuperbergDecember 01, 2011 - 2:02 pm

    Amrit - Although it is true that protesters were pepper sprayed, that the protesters want lower tuition, and that tuition is related to compensation, it is not true that they are all one and the same issue. Here I'll focus just on compensation. In round figures, undergraduate tuition pays for something like 1/5 of the operating budget of the non-medical part of UC Davis. (The medical school is financially independent.) The state grant for undergraduates is about another 1/5. So administration salaries do not mainly come from student tuition. Also, these salaries are generally at the market rate for public research university. Or even slightly on the low side: When Katehi was provost at Illinois, she was paid a bit more than Hexter is now; and the chancellor there was paid a bit more than Katehi is paid now. When you employ people, you buy their labor, and you have a choice between the market rate and off-market solutions. UC isn't really in a position to label the University of Illinois, the University of Kansas, the University of North Carolina, etc., as some kind of boutique high-end market, and to shield itself from job offers from these other universities. It can pay a little less than they do, but not a whole lot less. The one Davis employee listed in the Sac Bee article, chief counsel Steve Drown, is a case in point. His new salary, $250K, is not as high as some law school faculty, including one faculty member at Davis. He makes a lot more than I do. Do I think that he is smarter or more virtuous than I am? Not necessarily. But that is the market rate for his mission-critical service of legal strategy for the campus. If people sue the university, they might well use lawyers who earn even more. The situation is the same as with houses in Davis. A typical house in Davis sells for about a half-million dollars. These aren't really better houses than $100K houses somewhere else, but that is the market price here. The city has tried some off-market experiments and they are something of a gimmick. Besides, the salaries mentioned in the Sac Bee aren't actually top 1% salaries. The income cutoff for the top 1% is about $350K. The UC system doesn't make anyone, other than a few head coaches and maybe a few doctors, a rentier who is rich from an estate or from celebrity status or real CEO control. The Sacramento Kings are a good example of the real top 1%. The top player makes $8.5 million, and the team is owned by a family in the top 0.01%, the top 1% within the top 1%.

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  • Amrit SidhuDecember 01, 2011 - 4:14 pm

    Let me just ask you one question. Where exactly does student tuition go? Specifically, give me a break down. Also how can I track exactly what my tuition is going towards?

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  • Amrit SidhuDecember 01, 2011 - 4:17 pm

    But what does the admin do for us? And sorry, that was totally 2 questions, not 1. haha

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  • Greg KuperbergDecember 01, 2011 - 7:57 pm

    First of all, you should know something about how much UC costs per student. In 1960 and for decades afterward, the state paid about $30K per student, in 2011 dollars, and for the students it was almost free. Then at some point the state contribution began to slip, but the total stayed at roughly $30K. But, in the past 10 years, the situation deteriorated dramatically. Now, again in rough figures, the state pays $10K, the average student pays $10K, and the other $10K is missing. Some of that $20K per student does go to pay faculty. However, a lot of it (I think about half or more than half) goes to all manner of administrative services. It's paying for the registrar, admissions, fire, police, counseling, room scheduling, department staff, etc. These services are not particularly efficient at universities and the costs add up. And, of the portion that does go to faculty, it isn't used to buy as much teaching as possible. Rather, it buys access to research-caliber faculty with (I'll admit it) low teaching loads. It buys access to instructors and graduate students who are (at least supposed to be) aided or guided by more senior faculty. In the direct sense, none of this student money goes to research. On the contrary, a portion of research overhead goes to the general budget, which includes educating students. Very little of this money goes to anyone who can be called a "top executive". There aren't very many of them and they aren't all that super high paid either. Katehi is paid about the same as 4 or 5 typical tenure/tenure-track faculty, but there is only one of her and there are 1,000 faculty. There are a dozen or so deans, and since they are themselves senior faculty, they are not paid all that much more as deans than they would be as ordinary faculty. A bigger expense than these administrators themselves is the support staff for them.

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  • Amrit SidhuDecember 03, 2011 - 10:34 pm

    Thank you!

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  • Nathan BrownDecember 01, 2011 - 3:17 pm

    Here is the freshly appointed advisory board of the Chancellor who is "well-qualified to lead our university through this difficult healing process": http://chancellor.ucdavis.edu/initiatives/board_of_advisors/index.html The CEO of Bechtel. The CEO of Chevron. The Senior Vice-President of Bank of America Merill Lynch. And the Principal of McGill University, who twice ordered riot police onto that campus this November — police who also used pepper-spray against students. Clearly these are the right people to help Chancellor Katehi guide us through this difficult healing-process. Clearly, in appointing them, she has all of our best interests at heart. And clearly they will all be staunch defenders of the public mission of the UC system. The brazen propagation of these conflicts of interest and the ongoing privatization of the university are what these faculty support when they sign this letter.

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  • Jonathan EisenDecember 01, 2011 - 5:39 pm

    I can say that I definitely do not agree with Nathan Brown on many things he has said relating to the pepper spray incident. But at first glance I am with him on this one. If that advisory group was formed after the pepper spray incident (I know nothing about it one way or another - it certainly looks new) the overall composition could, well, use a wee bit of work in my opinion.

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  • Jonathan EisenDecember 01, 2011 - 5:43 pm

    Just to clarify - I am with Nathan in critiquing the composition of this board. I am not in agreement with his characterization of why people signed this letter ....

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  • peteDecember 01, 2011 - 5:58 pm

    Just so there is no confusion, this board has not been appointed to "lead our university through this difficult healing process" as misleadingly implied by Nathan. This is the Board of Advisors, whose purpose is "to offer independent, expert advice on how the university can continue on its path toward academic excellence and financial strength and stability." In other words, the purpose of this board is to advise Katehi on how to keep the university afloat financially as state funding continues to crumble. I'm not personally thrilled with some of the members of the board, but I suspect they might be useful for the assignment they have been given.

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  • RSDecember 01, 2011 - 6:50 pm

    Not even a token representative of the humanities on that board. Apparently, they have no place on the "path toward academic excellence." Interesting.

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  • Nathan BrownDecember 01, 2011 - 3:26 pm

    On the "investigations" currently underway, see this report: http://cucfa.org/news/2011_nov27.php And this: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/24/local/la-me-uc-davis-20111124 These "investigations" have now provided Chancellor Katehi with the cover to say she can no longer openly discuss the details of her decision making process that day, until they are completely.

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  • peteDecember 01, 2011 - 3:30 pm

    Aw, Nathan, you're just sore cuz most of your colleagues don't agree with you. Offering a self-serving (and inaccurate) characterization of their motives for signing the letter is pretty petty. Surely, you understand the distinction between privatizing a university and trying to cope with the fact that your state has privatized your university? Maybe you don't.

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  • Amrit SidhuDecember 01, 2011 - 4:15 pm

    Pete: With all due respect, do you work at a UC?

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  • Nathan BrownDecember 01, 2011 - 3:54 pm

    I understand a number of things quite well, Pete. On the last matter you mention, read this: http://cucfa.org/news/tuition_bonds.php And read this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9806378/Meister%20-%20Can%20the%20Financial%20Industry%20Save%20Public%20Universities.pdf And read this: http://www.newappsblog.com/2011/11/nathan-brown-5-theses-on-privatization-and-the-uc-struggle.html "You're just sore cuz": this sort of remark is representative of the infantilism that allows the Chancellor to peddle brazen lies and misinformation concerning these events. The point I make is that support for the Chancellor amounts to support for this campaign of dishonesty and misinformation, masquerading as "dialogue" and enabled by conflicts of interest. I don't think that's particularly difficult to understand.

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  • peteDecember 02, 2011 - 1:27 pm

    Well, Nathan, you oughta know infantilism when you see it. The more you beat your chest as the People's Poet, grandstand as a spokesman for the faculty, cast aspersions on the motives of your colleagues, and denigrate the analytical skills of faculty who disagree with you, the less able you will be to have a positive influence. And that's really too bad. Though I think you're dead wrong on almost every one of these issues, I admire your passion and I admire the balls you showed in writing your original letter.

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  • Jan WoodsDecember 01, 2011 - 6:53 pm

    Pete: Nathan is not misleading, you are misreading. It is, and he says it is, the "Chancellor" who is "'well-qualified to lead our University through this difficult healing process'" Nathan is suggesting that due to the Chancellor's choices for the folks to sit on this board, she is showing, again, she is not really qualified to lead. Whether you agree with him or not, you have misread him and attacked his point in error. Read it again. And, how do you know/judge what these folks motives are for serving? They don't appear by their vocations to be merely disinterested or even balanced in their activities.

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  • Jan WoodsDecember 01, 2011 - 7:21 pm

    Ooops. I misread: sorry. I see Pete is referring to the letter signers, not the people sitting on the board!

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  • el paisanoDecember 01, 2011 - 8:59 pm

    Here is the same list of faculty. With salaries. I'm sure you'll see a bit of a pattern. http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=258647534192636

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  • Prof XDecember 02, 2011 - 8:03 am

    My salary is in the lower 5% of these people, but what you have to remember when you look at these figures is that they actually are not as overpaid as many people say they are. A lot of these salary do not come from the state or the tuition. Some of the med school profs listed are paid largely from clinical revenues and federal grants they bring in. The same for other professors who have heavy research programs funded by federal or private institutions. And these research funds come with additional money that the university uses to pay bills and staffs (indirect costs). The state voters are not too eager to cover the cost of higher education. That's a decision that we have to accept to a certain point. To survive in that kind of political climate, we have to look for outside sources of revenues like grants and donations. People who can do that well are, as you can imagine, in high demand, so they need to be paid appropriately. Considering a lot of the salary listed in the above link are actually brought in by the researchers themselves, as well as they also bring in additional money for the university itself, these people are real assets to the university, not overpaid greedy Ph.Ds who are the causes of the increasing tuition. I am not happy about the rapid pace of growth in higher administrative positions at UC. Unfortunately, this trend is not unique to California. Again, the dwindling public support forces the public universities to operate like private corporations. That means we need CEOs, marketing people, lawyers, PR, etc. Universities can't just hire a CEO from a tech company, so academics with such administrative skills (and willingness to devote their time to it) are difficult to come by. The public also demand stuff that create these additional admin jobs. Compliance, regulations, training requirements, etc that federal/state govts impose require these admin positions to be made. If you think the UC faculty is overpaid and tuition is too high, I strongly suggest you to go to CSUs/CCs which are still much more affordable despite recent tuition increases. The missions of the UCs are more biased toward research than undergraduate education, so if you are looking for good classroom teachers who spoon-feed you textbook materials, UCs are not worth it. The only undergrads who would be better off at UCs are those who can study on their own and want to actively seek opportunities for research and other extracurricular activities. If you don't think those opportunities are worth the cost, look elsewhere. You can always graduate from CSUs and come to UCs as a paid graduate student if research is what you want to do. The public support for UCs is already so small that it is already 80% privatized. I think it's too late to go back to the old days when the UC students paid next to nothing to attend. The role of affordable public higher education should thus be on the shoulders of CSUs and CCs, and the UCs are forced to be state-independent and to focus on research and graduate education.

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  • peteDecember 02, 2011 - 9:05 am

    Thank You for laying out the facts! Turning UC into CSU would be tragic. Students in CA are fortunate to have an excellent alternative in CSU and in the CCs. Let me be perfectly clear: In an ideal world (and the world that our students, faculty, admins, and staff have been and should continue fighting for), UC would still be dirt cheap. Unfortunately, the people of CA (or their representatives, at least) have decided that public education is to be a private product rather than a public good. This is a terrible and disastrous choice in so many ways. Students, faculty, staff, and all concerned people in the state should be angry and fighting like hell to reverse this course. Also, unfortunately, maintaining the quality of the UC doesn't get cheaper just because the state no longer supports it. Given that reality, you have 2 choices: seek revenue elsewhere (e.g., increase out-of-state and international students, seek private funding, raise tuition) or watch the UC spiral into mediocrity. Go ask Oregon or Arizona (or most of the public universities in the country) how that's working out. Many people don't seem to quite understand how foregoing Option 1 (increasing revenue) will necessarily result in Option 2 (faculty flight and mediocrity).

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  • Prof YDecember 02, 2011 - 12:29 pm

    So what level of compensation would you expect for assistant, associate and full professor level faculty? Perhaps you can also publish the salaries of UCD administrators as a comparison.

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  • Howard ZochlinskiDecember 02, 2011 - 5:37 am

    I know some of these professors from experience - Gilchrist and Berger were sued by me for their efforts to prevent my reinstatement at UC. Gilchrist slandered me to undermine consideration of the issue. Some of these people would do anything to curry favor with the Regents or Chancellor. The Regents need to be eliminated, not bargained with. A ballot initiative to replace the Regents with the Chairs of the Academic Senates of the various campuses is the best thing to do.

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  • Jonathan ScholeyDecember 02, 2011 - 10:06 am

    As a UC Davis professor and the parent of a current UC undergraduate I would like to express my personal opinion about this letter of support for Chancellor Katehi. Among the faculty who signed the letter are some of the leading scholars at UC Davis and some of them are personal friends, but I disagree with them over this issue. I understand that the Chancellor is perceived to be doing some good things for UC Davis and that it may be difficult to find anyone more "well-qualified to lead our university through this difficult healing process"; after all, who would want to take over the responsibility for cleaning up this mess. However, for me the main point is that the Chancellor's decision to deploy police on November 18th led to a flagrant violation of the most basic principle of a University - that is the right of students, whose primary activity here involves intellectual pursuits such as learning and debate, to express their opinions in a peaceful and non-offensive manner. This is a slippery slope - witness events in Syria and Iran. This is why when I was invited to sign this letter along with my faculty colleagues, I responded as follows: "Dear Professor Leal, I respect your right to express your opinion in this way, even though it differs from mine. There is bound to be a spectrum of different, valid opinions following such a disturbing event (an event which may have damaged the reputation of UC Davis beyond repair). My personal opinion is one of sadness and regret that the Chancellor did not respect the rights of those students to peacefully express their own opinions but instead made the decision to deploy police. Accordingly I will respectfully decline your offer to sign this letter. Sincerely, Jonathan".

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  • Nathan BrownDecember 02, 2011 - 10:20 am

    On the investigations currently underway, see this report: http://cucfa.org/news/2011_nov27.php And this: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/24/local/la-me-uc-davis-20111124

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  • Nathan BrownDecember 02, 2011 - 10:21 am

    On privatization as an aggressive program pursued by the administration, rather than a defensive measure to compensate for state cuts, read this: http://cucfa.org/news/tuition_bonds.php And read this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9806378/Meister%20-%20Can%20the%20Financial%20Industry%20Save%20Public%20Universities.pdf And read this: http://www.newappsblog.com/2011/11/nathan-brown-5-theses-on-privatization-and-the-uc-struggle.html

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  • Brian RileyJuly 25, 2013 - 2:48 pm

    Thank you, Nathan, for your courageous and conscientious work on this issue. --Brian

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  • Student XDecember 02, 2011 - 1:07 pm

    Nathan Brown Salary. 2009: $66,244.96.

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  • Jack PraisDecember 16, 2011 - 6:21 pm

    Overpaid

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  • Student XDecember 02, 2011 - 1:10 pm

    John Pike Salary. 2009: $107,792.20

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  • BarbaraDecember 02, 2011 - 2:00 pm

    When you are looking at and comparing faculty salaries you need to take into consideration how long the particular person has been at UCD and how distinguished they are (in their field) and what other duties, such as Chair, Director, etc. they also perform. Many of the professors who signed the Leal letter are in the third or fourth decade of their careers and many of them perform other duties besides their substantial research and their teaching. Not all of them listed their other titles but many of them have additional responsibilities. Prof. Brown is at the beginning of his career and his salary reflects that. Give him 30 more years and then compare his salary. Also, most if not all science professors work year-round (and many liberal arts professors do not) and, as Prof. X states, bring in large amounts to the university through their grants. To be competitive many of them work at least 60 hours a week. Typically the university takes more than 50% overhead from every grant, money that can pay for TAs and such for the liberal arts folks who do not bring money for the campus. I'm not judging here (I was a liberal arts major) just stating the facts as I know them. I don't understand why the support occupy folks have become so in-tolerate of those who do not share their opinion (about the Chancellor being fired, for example) and who are resorting to mean-spirited and unfair tactics like publishing information about salaries, etc. Just because someone doesn't share one opinion does not make them your enemy and does not mean they don't support the general ideas behind the occupy movement. The people who signed the Leal letter have spent decades working on and for this campus and their opinion should mean something. Professor Brown is a newcomer and, increasingly is looking like a big-time self-promoter.

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  • Milan MoravecDecember 02, 2011 - 4:44 pm

    UC Berkeley Chancellor Birgeneau’s campus police report to the chancellor and the campus police take direction from the chancellor. University of California (UC) campus chancellors vet their campus police protocols. Birgeneau allowed pepper spray and use of batons to be included in his campus police protocols. Chancellor Birgeneau’s campus police use brutal baton jabs on students protesting increases in tuition. UC Berkeley Chancellor Birgeneau and UC Davis Chancellor Katehi are in dereliction of their duties. Birgeneau and UC Davis Chancellor need to quit or be fired for permitting the brutal outrages on students protesting tuition increases. Opinions? Email the UC Board of Regents marsha.kelman@ucop.edu

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  • AngelaDecember 02, 2011 - 4:55 pm

    Who are you to judge how much these distinguished professors are earning? If they were in a private institution like Stanford or a private company (and many of them could easily be there) they would be earning much more. We are extremely lucky to have them in UC Davis, they are an asset to the university. They have earned these salaries. Dr. Brown is just an English Junior Faculty. His salary would be doubled in 10-20 years. Please put things into perspective here. This is just your frustration talking about the increasing inequality gap and unemployment rates, etc speaking. Your problem is not against accomplished academics, it is against your federal government and Wall Street and the banks, that had their party and were left unpunished. Dr. Brown's original letter had some good points but he tends to be a little too extreme esp. when he seems to have a personal vendetta with the administration for reasons unbeknownst to me. However, what he has brought up in other instances about the UCs using the increased fees as collaterals for lucrative investments that have nothing to do with the university would be worth looking into. However, it seems that most people, once again are looking into the surface and have no idea what is really going on.

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